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    #1 User is offline ? rlouizjr?

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    Posted Today, 09:54 AM

    To me that was strong that the team went to the foul line a lot..Some should notice that Tracy Abrams accentuates his positives by using his left on the drives some.I love when the guys go to the basket but most of them never go left. That in my opinion would make BP3 and JoeTales almost unstoppable(except for the free throw line),because it would change the scouting reports on them and there would be less struggle and frustration at times for this team.I like Egwu's shooting but he and Mclaurin are fairly lacking in the rebounding dept.This was supposed to be a strength for the guy from Coastal Carolina.Im not knocking just observing. These places if they improve upon would make the team mentally strong and make execution of this new offense much more potent....Who thinks this way maybe or tell me what you think... I'm waiting on a response or two Illini fans.

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    #2 User is online ? PBLIllini?

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    Posted Today, 10:02 AM

    I think BP3 has improved his left quite a bit since last year. I agree they need to continue to develop it.

    I am a bit puzzled by our bigs lack of rebounding. They are really, really poor at blocking out and getting boards. It's probably the biggest problem we have.

    I really hate the way our bigs over-hedge too. That constantly puts the defense in a bind and messes up the rotations. Wish we would do more showing and less hedging.

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    #3 User is online ? rob mccolley?

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    Posted Today, 10:34 AM

    Unusual sentence structure what was your first language?

    View Postrlouizjr, on 31 December 2012 - 09:54 AM, said:

    To me that was strong that the team went to the foul line a lot..Some should notice that Tracy Abrams accentuates his positives by using his left on the drives some.I love when the guys go to the basket but most of them never go left. That in my opinion would make BP3 and JoeTales almost unstoppable(except for the free throw line),because it would change the scouting reports on them and there would be less struggle and frustration at times for this team.I like Egwu's shooting but he and Mclaurin are fairly lacking in the rebounding dept.This was supposed to be a strength for the guy from Coastal Carolina.Im not knocking just observing. These places if they improve upon would make the team mentally strong and make execution of this new offense much more potent....Who thinks this way maybe or tell me what you think... I'm waiting on a response or two Illini fans.

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    #4 User is offline ? ILLove1997?

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    Posted Today, 10:48 AM

    Playing zone certainly hurts the big guy's rebounding, but its not like we play that all the time... it certainly is boggling how it seems as though they are completely incapable of boxing out, like... ever

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    #5 User is offline ? Illini1956?

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    Posted Today, 10:58 AM

    View PostILLove1997, on 31 December 2012 - 10:48 AM, said:

    Playing zone certainly hurts the big guy's rebounding, but its not like we play that all the time... it certainly is boggling how it seems as though they are completely incapable of boxing out, like... ever

    The Illini do not play a lot of zone defense. The myth, urban ledgend that a zone hurts rebounding is utter B.S. Syracuse plays exclusively zone and they are in the top 13 in rebounding. Practic rebounding and boxing out will help. Actually having the bigs occasionally visit the paint helps. In fact having the bigs inside while using a zone is bound to help because they are not chasing someone 30 feet from the basket.

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    #6 User is offline ? ILLove1997?

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    Posted Today, 11:15 AM

    Cuse plays a matchup zone which is more like man to man than the 2-3 that we play, but yes it is difficult to rebound as the center in that kind of defense, because you almost always have two guys jumping over your back on every posession.

    I play 2-3 zone in my league and I play center, and my rebounding numbers blow because I am mostly tapping it to one of the baseline guys because it is more effective than getting mauled over my back by two people even though I'm boxing out.

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    #7 User is offline ? SS_Duff?

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    Posted Today, 11:31 AM

    BP's biggest problem continues to be mental.

    he's letting the early success go to his head and it is showing in his play. it is cliche, but he so completely fits the need to "let the game come to him"

    he has been forcing WAY too much these last few games and his play has dropped off considerably. 12 assists and 17 turnovers last 4 games. to go with a putrid 31.5% from the floor. 25% from 3.

    shows in these stupid isolation, jack-up bad shot plays that have happened numerous times...it's as if Paul takes on this Kobe Bryant mentality. that no matter what, he is going to take the shot at certain times. this is unacceptable. he's quite clearly let the early hype go to his head.

    Groce has got to get him focused or we are in for a long Big Ten schedule.

    #1 -- give Paul a talking too
    #2 -- try something, i'm not sure what, to snap DJ Richardson out of being God awful.

    plenty of other things to work on but these are pressing. we are going nowhere if Paul and DJ keep playing anywhere near this bad.

    just glad our next opponent is Purdue and not Indiana. we would be run out of the gym by Indiana right now.

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    #8 User is offline ? SoCal Illini Fan?

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    Posted Today, 11:34 AM

    View Postrob mccolley, on 31 December 2012 - 10:34 AM, said:

    Unusual sentence structure what was your first language?


    I see what you did there... Posted Image

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    #9 User is online ? rob mccolley?

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    Posted Today, 11:41 AM

    Yep.

    View PostSS_Duff, on 31 December 2012 - 11:31 AM, said:

    BP's biggest problem continues to be mental.

    he's letting the early success go to his head and it is showing in his play. it is cliche, but he so completely fits the need to "let the game come to him"

    he has been forcing WAY too much these last few games and his play has dropped off considerably. 12 assists and 17 turnovers last 4 games. to go with a putrid 31.5% from the floor. 25% from 3.

    shows in these stupid isolation, jack-up bad shot plays that have happened numerous times...it's as if Paul takes on this Kobe Bryant mentality. that no matter what, he is going to take the shot at certain times. this is unacceptable. he's quite clearly let the early hype go to his head.

    Groce has got to get him focused or we are in for a long Big Ten schedule.

    #1 -- give Paul a talking too
    #2 -- try something, i'm not sure what, to snap DJ Richardson out of being God awful.

    plenty of other things to work on but these are pressing. we are going nowhere if Paul and DJ keep playing anywhere near this bad.

    just glad our next opponent is Purdue and not Indiana. we would be run out of the gym by Indiana right now.

    Except that Kobe already got paid. BP3 won't see the NBA if he doesn't correct these problems.

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    #10 User is offline ? rlouizjr?

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    Posted Today, 11:48 AM

    I was born in haiti,but i will try to write better.This was my first online posting here.I live in Tenn now ,but i like to call Chicago home and i love the Illini nation sports....

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    #11 User is online ? rob mccolley?

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    Posted Today, 12:07 PM

    Spelling's fine. Good word choices.

    View Postrlouizjr, on 31 December 2012 - 11:48 AM, said:

    I was born in haiti,but i will try to write better.This was my first online posting here.I live in Tenn now ,but i like to call Chicago home and i love the Illini nation sports....

    Grammar unruly.

    Hey, notice how none of my sentences had a subject? Only two of them have verbs. Well, three now (including a single, conjoined letter).

    Point is, you don't always have to follow the rules, but a good rule is to stick with one subject per sentence. (Oh crap, bad example.)

    (Let me try again.) You don't have to follow rules. But if you want to be understood, stick to one subject/verb pair per clause.

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    #12 User is offline ? ILLove1997?

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    Posted Today, 12:13 PM

    View Postrob mccolley, on 31 December 2012 - 12:07 PM, said:

    Spelling's fine. Good word choices.

    Grammar unruly.

    Hey, notice how none of my sentences had a subject? Only two of them have verbs. Well, three now (including a single, conjoined letter).

    Point is, you don't always have to follow the rules, but a good rule is to stick with one subject per sentence. (Oh crap, bad example.)

    (Let me try again.) You don't have to follow rules. But if you want to be understood, stick to one subject/verb pair per clause.

    Like this;

    Nerd alert!

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    #13 User is online ? rob mccolley?

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    Posted Today, 12:27 PM

    I just came across this atrocious writing, also from a News-Gazette publication.


    It is unlikely that the vast majority of us will ever vaguely understand why a person could believe that driving to a school and shooting 20 children ? as recently was the incomprehensible nightmare in Connecticut ? is a reasonable idea. There have to be so many short circuits in the basic wiring of that individual's humanity that to even approach that sort of thinking is far beyond the boundaries of our own minds. So we rage. And we pray. And we struggle to scab over the wound in all of our hearts.




    The jumble could be reduced to




    We'll never understand Newtown. It's inconceivable.




    without sacrificing gravitas, or changing the meaning.


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    #14 User is offline ? IlliniIECD?

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    Posted Today, 12:44 PM

    View Postrob mccolley, on 31 December 2012 - 12:27 PM, said:

    without sacrificing gravitas, or changing the meaning.

    I love gravitas...on my Thanksgiving turkey.

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    #15 User is offline ? ILLove1997?

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    Posted Today, 01:35 PM

    View Postrob mccolley, on 31 December 2012 - 12:27 PM, said:

    I just came across this atrocious writing, also from a News-Gazette publication.


    It is unlikely that the vast majority of us will ever vaguely understand why a person could believe that driving to a school and shooting 20 children ? as recently was the incomprehensible nightmare in Connecticut ? is a reasonable idea. There have to be so many short circuits in the basic wiring of that individual's humanity that to even approach that sort of thinking is far beyond the boundaries of our own minds. So we rage. And we pray. And we struggle to scab over the wound in all of our hearts.




    The jumble could be reduced to




    We'll never understand Newtown. It's inconceivable.




    without sacrificing gravitas, or changing the meaning.


    Apparently some people not only love the sound of their own voices, but also love to read their own excessive textual diahrrea as well.

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    #16 User is offline ? Illini1956?

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    Posted Today, 01:35 PM

    View Postrlouizjr, on 31 December 2012 - 11:48 AM, said:

    I was born in haiti,but i will try to write better.This was my first online posting here.I live in Tenn now ,but i like to call Chicago home and i love the Illini nation sports....

    Welcome. You had a good first post.

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    #17 User is online ? rob mccolley?

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    Posted Today, 01:46 PM

    I wouldn't have guessed the Romantic Language group. Maybe the syntax derives more from Creole than French.

    View PostILLove1997, on 31 December 2012 - 01:35 PM, said:

    Apparently some people not only love the sound of their own voices, but also love to read their own excessive textual diahrrea as well.

    I'm glad you take an interest in these things too.

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    #18 User is offline ? ILLove1997?

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    Posted Today, 01:47 PM

    View Postrob mccolley, on 31 December 2012 - 01:46 PM, said:

    I wouldn't have guessed the Romantic Language group. Maybe the syntax derives more from Creole than French.

    I'm glad you take an interest in these things too.

    Actually, I take interest in people taking interest.

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    #19 User is online ? rob mccolley?

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    Posted Today, 01:51 PM

    Interesting.

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    Posted Today, 02:15 PM

    View PostSS_Duff, on 31 December 2012 - 11:31 AM, said:

    BP's biggest problem continues to be mental.

    he's letting the early success go to his head and it is showing in his play. it is cliche, but he so completely fits the need to "let the game come to him"

    he has been forcing WAY too much these last few games and his play has dropped off considerably. 12 assists and 17 turnovers last 4 games. to go with a putrid 31.5% from the floor. 25% from 3.

    shows in these stupid isolation, jack-up bad shot plays that have happened numerous times...it's as if Paul takes on this Kobe Bryant mentality. that no matter what, he is going to take the shot at certain times. this is unacceptable. he's quite clearly let the early hype go to his head.

    Groce has got to get him focused or we are in for a long Big Ten schedule.

    #1 -- give Paul a talking too
    #2 -- try something, i'm not sure what, to snap DJ Richardson out of being God awful.

    plenty of other things to work on but these are pressing. we are going nowhere if Paul and DJ keep playing anywhere near this bad.

    just glad our next opponent is Purdue and not Indiana. we would be run out of the gym by Indiana right now.

    I'm assuming your assesment of BP is merely your opinion, if not are you the team psychologist?
    I also like your statement "give him a talking too". What do you think coaches do in practice? Do you think they ever work on individual or team weaknesses? Somehow your "talking to" or "try something" seem to be very, very, simplistic approaches. Maybe if Coach gives them a "good talking to" we can win a road game on Wed.

    Go Illini!

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